JerseyCityGal

@@Stephanie Salsera Perrott
Life after the sleeve isn't a life of denial. I love food and go out to eat all the time. You just change the way you eat, what you eat and how much.
I've followed this surgeon's eating advice. I got the book on Kindle a few days after surgery. It made a huge difference in my outlook on post-surgery life and I pimp it every chance I get. He really knows how to lay it out for people and teach you how to eat after surgery. Everyone thinks they know how, but they don't. He made things a lot easier for me and I still refer to the book constantly.
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Gastric-Sleeve-Success-Practical/dp/0615830447/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1424296331&sr=8-2&keywords=duc+vuong

Nope.
PCOS and early menopause.

Why are you still talking to these people or sharing your private information with them?
They are your husband's family. He can go to their house to visit without you. They can call him on his cell and he can take the call out of the room. When the subject of you comes up, your husband can just say "Jangy sends her regards" and then drop it like a hot rock. Switch the subject. They bring you up again, he now "has to go".
It's like dog training. It takes a few times, but people get the picture if you are consistent.
There is no law that says you have to interact with them. The drama trolley runs both ways. Stop participating, don't feed into it. Don't even think about it. They don't exist as far as you are concerned.
It actually has nothing to do with you. If you evaporated 10 minutes from now, they would find someone/something else to harp on. If you do the above, the focus will eventually get off you.
Don't use other people as an excuse for you not living or having the life you want. You are married to your husband, not these other people. You don't need anyone else's support or permission to make lifestyle changes or to go ahead with surgery.

Why are you still talking to these people or sharing your private information with them?
They are your husband's family. He can go to their house to visit without you. They can call him on his cell and he can take the call out of the room. When the subject of you comes up, your husband can just say "Jangy sends her regards" and then drop it like a hot rock. Switch the subject. They bring you up again, he now "has to go".
It's like dog training. It takes a few times, but people get the picture if you are consistent.
There is no law that says you have to interact with them. The drama trolley runs both ways. Stop participating, don't feed into it. Don't even think about it. They don't exist as far as you are concerned.
It actually has nothing to do with you. If you evaporated 10 minutes from now, they would find someone/something else to harp on. If you do the above, the focus will eventually get off you.
Don't use other people as an excuse for you not living or having the life you want. You are married to your husband, not these other people. You don't need anyone else's support or permission to make lifestyle changes or to go ahead with surgery.

Why are you still talking to these people or sharing your private information with them?
They are your husband's family. He can go to their house to visit without you. They can call him on his cell and he can take the call out of the room. When the subject of you comes up, your husband can just say "Jangy sends her regards" and then drop it like a hot rock. Switch the subject. They bring you up again, he now "has to go".
It's like dog training. It takes a few times, but people get the picture if you are consistent.
There is no law that says you have to interact with them. The drama trolley runs both ways. Stop participating, don't feed into it. Don't even think about it. They don't exist as far as you are concerned.
It actually has nothing to do with you. If you evaporated 10 minutes from now, they would find someone/something else to harp on. If you do the above, the focus will eventually get off you.
Don't use other people as an excuse for you not living or having the life you want. You are married to your husband, not these other people. You don't need anyone else's support or permission to make lifestyle changes or to go ahead with surgery.

this post is so to the point!!! i feel the exact same way. before surgery...i couldn't "put the food away"...now i say, "hey, it'll be there when i get back!"

surgery success!
i did not want food to become my enemy after surgery. i refused to get rid of real sugar for artificial, i did not want to get sick from anything. i did not want to be leery concerning an activity i MUST do to stay alive.
i am happy that for me, this surgery didn't take those things away from me. i LOVE food. i LOVE eating.
i just do it normally now.
i'm also a JC girl btw! hiii! *waves*

this surgery's success is just as much mental as it is physical. you are not only retraining your body, you are retraining your mind.
i too am one of the ones who felt almost NO restriction after surgery...and i blame it on my absolutely excellent, awesome surgeon dr. jordan garrison. he did the operation so well that immediately afterward, besides the obvious pain from slicing through stomach muscle to get to the organs inside, and being groggy from the meds, i had absolutely no pain and my first meal after surgery, slurped down the ENTIRE bowl of broth (about a cup) and easily slurped down 2 ounces of Water every 15 minutes.
by the time i was healing a week later, i was dying of thirst because 2 ounces of Water just wasn't enough for me. i decided to push myself to see how much i could hold...4 ounces EASY...6 ounces before restriction even wanted to kick in...and about 8 ounces before i felt overfull! talk about a pouch!
i panicked. because i felt like i could hold WAY too much liquid that early out. when i started on thick liquids...i could EASILY get down 4 ounces of Tomato Soup and not feel "full". i also remembered him telling me he removed ALOT of my hunger nerves to help control that insatiable hunger signal of mine. so naturally, when i went to my appointment with my dr...i told him "hey doc i'm eating way too much! not only that, i'm hungry! not head hungry...but actually HUNGRY. like...where's the meal?!" i mean hey...why was i HUNGRY when he removed so much of my stomach and attached nerves?!
he looked at me, as calm as can be and said, "t...everyone is different. this is a tool for you. i didn't operate on you to remove your digestive system. or to make you never hungry again. i operated on you so you can take control of your weight via better choices, and have your body cooperate with your determination a bit more. this is still your battle. some people get hungry. some people don't. some people can drink alot, some people can't. this surgery is different on every person and no two results are exactly alike. in the meantime...youre 20 pounds down and doing great!"

i never worried again. i am realizing that for me...i had an EXTREME hunger response before surgery and now, i have what i would call a NORMAL hunger response. it is for me, the same way it is for my healthy weighted friends who have never had surgery. it is not a suppressed response like some other surgery patients. it's just normal. that is the result i got, and i am working with it. i feel my surgery was a success in that arena because although he did not remove my hunger signal, he helped to bring it down to a normal level. prior to surgery...i would still have hunger signals even while being full to the point of being sick! i would be physically over full, but feel like i hadn't eaten anything all day long! hard to explain but it was there! and now...i get hungry...i eat...and i'm not hungry anymore.

success!
my weight loss is much slower than others. at 10 months out, i'm only 50+ lbs down. some people are already 100+ lbs down by this time. but you know what...i can eat normally. i NEVER get sick, i've never vomited. i've overeaten a time or two, and paid the price. but i feel more in control. food doesn't control me like it used to on a good day. i notice the only time my food control will gets thin is when i'm under HIGH stress. yes i can still process junk food. i can still process alot of empty liquids. but now, i can turn away from those things and NOT feel like i'm coming off of drug withdrawal. i don't need those things to CONTROL my life.
i stopped overthinking my surgery results. stopped nitpicking over every little thing my body did afterwards that wasn't "by the book". i followed the rules, sometimes toeing the line but never going over. and i am adjusting pretty well i think. i never had a huge drop in weight...and to continue losing, i now have to work out, exercise and watch what i eat! but i would say...considering that the goal of the surgeries we undergo is for them to be a TOOL and not the solution...i would say i'm right on track.

and i realize my surgery turned out just fine for me.
calm down, breathe deep, follow the rules and pay attention to your body...and you may find that your surgery result is just fine, despite being different from everyone else's.
sorry for the super long response, but i just want you to know that i too had an atypical post surgery experience...but here i am, 10 months later, so happy i did it. and 50 lbs smaller.

People are explaining it wrong. Jillian is right.
A pound of muscle and a pound of fat weight exactly the same. A pound.
A pound of muscle looks better than a pound of fat because fat takes up a lot more space. Muscle makes you look leaner and harder. Plus, the MORE lean muscle you have, the more calories your body burns. You can weigh the same if you are muscular and look significantly smaller than the person of the same height and weight standing next to you who has half the lean muscle you do.
The part about gaining "muscle" weight while weight lifting being really hard to do is completely true. It takes significant effort to become jacked up or bulked up. Like eat 2 pounds of chicken, 2 pounds of potatoes, etc per day while following a crazy workout schedule. It's like having an extra job.
A very thin person who starts weight training would experience a small weight gain without trying to become bulked up, but anyone else, not really. You would get an increase in blood volume and muscle gain but that would be offset by a much more significant fat loss.

Your "restriction" at this point (and maybe always) should be MEASURING your food and not eating more than that!!!!!!! Putting down the fork is a restriction too.
I didn't, and still don't, feel full most of the time. My "full" is when I have had my portion. You don't have to feel full to have had enough food.
Eat 2 oz (or how much for whatever stage you are at) and put the rest in the fridge. The food isn't going to run away. It will be there for your next meal.

I'll never forget when I was listening to a podcast by Jillian Michaels (I know some hate her, but I love her).. and she said, the muscle makes you gain myth is total bunk.. its something people to say to make someone feel better and that its really, really hard to gain that much muscle.

I don't use bariatric vitamins for the same reason ... but I take a stack of vitamins twice a day, every single day. I load up my AM and PM Vitamin cases once a week.

I had a small slice for hitting Onederland. I really really really wanted it. I swear some days I lived for the thought that when I hit Onederland, I was going to have a slice of pizza, lol.
Once in a while I'll have a few bites but it really doesn't have the appeal it once did for me. I don't want to start eating it out of habit so I mostly stay away from it.
I don't do carbonated ever so I can't help you with that.

Want some straight up honesty, no drama?
You two are used to each other and it's comfortable. You know what to expect. That's not love, it's a habit.
He found you, he'll find someone else.
You both need to get healthy, not just you.

If you think Gary's ad is "perfect" .... there are really no words.
He was looking for a hot part-time sex partner in exchange for gifts and vacations.
Mentally healthy people who want an actual relationship want to be able to imagine where they would fit in and be compatible with someone and not be stepping into a plot or role that someone else has written, or in this case literally dictated, for them.

If you think Gary's ad is "perfect" .... there are really no words.
He was looking for a hot part-time sex partner in exchange for gifts and vacations.
Mentally healthy people who want an actual relationship want to be able to imagine where they would fit in and be compatible with someone and not be stepping into a plot or role that someone else has written, or in this case literally dictated, for them.

If you think Gary's ad is "perfect" .... there are really no words.
He was looking for a hot part-time sex partner in exchange for gifts and vacations.
Mentally healthy people who want an actual relationship want to be able to imagine where they would fit in and be compatible with someone and not be stepping into a plot or role that someone else has written, or in this case literally dictated, for them.

Hang in there. It isn't over yet.
It takes a lot of discipline to stay on track. There aren't really any tricks to it. It's a matter of controlling what you eat.
I am a gay male and I can't stay at the gym 2.5 hours. your friend has gotta be hot if hes spending that much time there lol.
I get up at 4am every morning and go to the gym for 1 hour and 15 minutes, 7 days a week and never miss a day.
A therapist? What is a therapist going to do for you? May I suggest instead a work out buddy who pushes you and drags you to the gym and helps keep you on schedule?
My hubby and I started going to the gym in January of this year. In fact, everyone was going. Out of all of them, I'm the only one still going. I try each morning to get him out of bed and drag him with me, but he just sleeps. He is a tooth pick and he doesn't really need to go. I've also tried to guilt him, tell him I'm getting fat again because of him, asked nicely, I've tried everything. The gym is more enjoyable when I have someone to go with. So for now, its just me, spotify and my bottle of sobe every morning. I've come to know the morning employees really well and even text with them and hang out with them sometimes.
Another suggestion, instead of a therapist, why not go see a doctor and ask them about a weight loss prescription pill? I know there is one that has topamax in it and trust me, just topamax by itself will help you lose 20 lbs without trying. Just an idea to help you get back on track.
Remember you can't give up once you reach your goal weight, you have to stay on track and keep on going.
I have a weaknes for white reese cups that are frozen. I can finish and entire bag in one sitting. Since I started working out more, I find I'm more hungry and do everything I can to fight the hunger.

I got my surgery date today!!!!!!!! June 17th!!!!!!! I'm ready!!!!!

I love coming home from the gym and tossing some fruit and ice in the blender with some Garden of Life vanilla raw Protein powder. 90 calories plus whatever fruit I added. 17 g of protein. Much better than sitting around eating cheese sticks.

I love coming home from the gym and tossing some fruit and ice in the blender with some Garden of Life vanilla raw Protein powder. 90 calories plus whatever fruit I added. 17 g of protein. Much better than sitting around eating cheese sticks.

You can eat a burger without the bun ... use lettuce as the wrap and stuff Tomato slices in between.
You can slice up a parsnip and roast it to make fake french fries. It's a bit high in carbs (24 for 1 cup), but that's still 1/2 the carbs of what the same amount of fries has, and it's delicious.
You are going to have to change your eating when you are sleeved. You may as well start now.

I do that too.
I see something generic under "New Topics", click and respond and then later on I can't seem to find it only to discover that it's in the guys forum.

How do you expect to afford to eat post-op? This is exactly how you will be eating for the rest of your life post-op. You won't have room for starches and carbs when you need 100 grams of Protein a day and can only eat a few ounces of food at a time.

You may as well get used to eating low carb/high Protein now. Some feel that you don't need to cut out complex carbs completely post surgery, but I feel continuing to eat complex carbs is a slippery slope with a lot of obese people. It leads to cravings for more carbs and sugar because the way they are broken down. Personally I stay away from them 95% of the time, and I find I don't get the cravings for sweets as bad. When I do indulge? Yeah, it takes days of detoxing and fighting the cravings, so I prefer not to put myself through that. The only carbs i get now are from fruits and veggies.
Luckily post op you will be eating a lot less, so your food bills should go down a little

I do that too.
I see something generic under "New Topics", click and respond and then later on I can't seem to find it only to discover that it's in the guys forum.