O.T.R. sleever

The unfortunate reality is that those Protein Shots are no be benefit to the human body. They get most of their protein from gelatin/collagen which our bodied cannot utilize. Yes, I know the name on the shot leads you to believe that you are getting whey protein, but unfortunately this is not the case.
Make sure to read the ingredients on the label. The best protein supplements will be pure whey isolate. Also egg whites, hemp, soy, & milk Proteins are good too. But if the label contains the words collagen or Gelatin, don't buy it. A it is capable of doing is separating you from your money.

The unfortunate reality is that those Protein Shots are no be benefit to the human body. They get most of their protein from gelatin/collagen which our bodied cannot utilize. Yes, I know the name on the shot leads you to believe that you are getting whey protein, but unfortunately this is not the case.
Make sure to read the ingredients on the label. The best protein supplements will be pure whey isolate. Also egg whites, hemp, soy, & milk Proteins are good too. But if the label contains the words collagen or Gelatin, don't buy it. A it is capable of doing is separating you from your money.

I have never seen Protein pills. The main reason that they have historically been unavailable is because of the sheer volume of Protein needed by our bodies. To get 30 grams of protein through capsules you need 7-10 "horse pills". You think choking down a Protein Drink is hard? This would be next to impossible.
Furthermore, keep in mind that all Proteins are not created equal. There are a number of Protein drinks & shots out there that are of zero nutritional benefit.

The unfortunate reality is that those Protein Shots are no be benefit to the human body. They get most of their protein from gelatin/collagen which our bodied cannot utilize. Yes, I know the name on the shot leads you to believe that you are getting whey protein, but unfortunately this is not the case.
Make sure to read the ingredients on the label. The best protein supplements will be pure whey isolate. Also egg whites, hemp, soy, & milk Proteins are good too. But if the label contains the words collagen or Gelatin, don't buy it. A it is capable of doing is separating you from your money.

The unfortunate reality is that those Protein Shots are no be benefit to the human body. They get most of their protein from gelatin/collagen which our bodied cannot utilize. Yes, I know the name on the shot leads you to believe that you are getting whey protein, but unfortunately this is not the case.
Make sure to read the ingredients on the label. The best protein supplements will be pure whey isolate. Also egg whites, hemp, soy, & milk Proteins are good too. But if the label contains the words collagen or Gelatin, don't buy it. A it is capable of doing is separating you from your money.

I have never seen Protein pills. The main reason that they have historically been unavailable is because of the sheer volume of Protein needed by our bodies. To get 30 grams of protein through capsules you need 7-10 "horse pills". You think choking down a Protein Drink is hard? This would be next to impossible.
Furthermore, keep in mind that all Proteins are not created equal. There are a number of Protein drinks & shots out there that are of zero nutritional benefit.

I still remember my first post in this forum.it was something like,
Is this too easy? I'm really afraid since this is causing me no real adversity that I am going to fail at this.
Needless to say, I'm almost 11 weeks out & it is definately working, and I'm not a failure. I haven't had any real issues yet.

mactal.bmp
Unfortunately this is all I have in my phone pre-op.


4 months later.

Hey, love the idea of a weekly weigh in. Not sure if Saturday is a bad day for you, but we'd love for you to join us on the Saturday weigh in.
http://www.verticalsleevetalk.com/topic/28362-super-saturday-weigh-in/

At 7weeks you aren't at any real risk of harming yourself. Just be careful how much you have and make sure to include the calories of the olive oil into your calculation. Oils are almost pure fat. I'd recommend going air popped or getting the 100calorie pre measured microwave bags.

Ha ha ha, that is the one bad side effect of the sleeve, the first few month after being sleeved we go through a period of accelerated weight loss. And since estrogen is stored in fat, it get released into our system so quickly that we become a bit more defensive than we typically are. Fortunately that is temporary.

I fail to see where Iggy has been a bully at all.
Yes, she has an opinion of the surgery that is tainted by her experience, but I believe all our experiences have influenced our opinions.
Yes, she posts her views often. There is nothing keeping anybody from posting about their experiences right along side of hers.
Really, the only limitations placed on these type of posts are basic common courtesy. Things like don't personally attack each other & don't be offensive just to get a reaction. I will admit, I am a bit partial to Iggy, partially because I was here to witness the hardship she went through, and see how level headed & non judgmental she remained as she was going hrough the whole ordeal. And really, if I would have gone through 1/2 of what she did, I'd be telling anybody that even considered WLS that it's the worst decision they could make.
Fortunately for me, my experience was quite the opposite, as is true for most of he people here. The overwhelming majority of us have had great experiences, it's not Iggy's fault if we don't say it enough.
I come here and support people in their decisions. As do most people that are more than a couple months post op.
I ask of everybody, if you believe this forum has an overbearing dark feeling to it, bring in some light. Tell your good stories. If someone tells of a bad experience, put yourself in their shoes for a minute, and ask yourself how you would act if you had their experience. Attacking someone for posting advice based on their bad experience is not going to make this a better place, it will simply push more people away.
Here is another thing to consider. This forum needs people like Iggy. Without her, or other people like her, what would we have? A forum full of positivity? Absolutely not. We'd have a site that anybody coming here would think s a contrived promotional tool. Showing the good & the bad together is a big part of what lends validity to our little community here.
I truly hope we can all just accept each other for who we are, and let go of whatever animosity we might be holding within.
This is a great place to come to, and it will continue to be.

So, let me get this right....... There is this "magic" hormone that makes you lose weight, but it only works if you adhere to a strict 500 calorie no carb/ no sugar diet?.......
What am I missing here? You are eating 500cal per day and no carbs or sugars. That's why you are losing weight. I'm betting ths HCG stuff makes it so if you exercise at the same time you lose even faster. I'm sorry, but on a similar diet I lost 37lbs in a month, but I didn't have any "magic" hormone pulsing through my veins. All I had was a smaller stomach & my caloric intake was more like 800/day.
Hasn't everybody heard it enough? Every weight loss gimmick out there claims, "with our product & diet & exercise" you'll lose weight. Forget all the gimmicks you've got the tool to help you control your diet, you can do the exercise. Keep the extra money in your pocket, your gonna need it for new clothes.

So, let me get this right....... There is this "magic" hormone that makes you lose weight, but it only works if you adhere to a strict 500 calorie no carb/ no sugar diet?.......
What am I missing here? You are eating 500cal per day and no carbs or sugars. That's why you are losing weight. I'm betting ths HCG stuff makes it so if you exercise at the same time you lose even faster. I'm sorry, but on a similar diet I lost 37lbs in a month, but I didn't have any "magic" hormone pulsing through my veins. All I had was a smaller stomach & my caloric intake was more like 800/day.
Hasn't everybody heard it enough? Every weight loss gimmick out there claims, "with our product & diet & exercise" you'll lose weight. Forget all the gimmicks you've got the tool to help you control your diet, you can do the exercise. Keep the extra money in your pocket, your gonna need it for new clothes.

Firstly let me say, you look great.
I didn't read the entire thread, so forgive me if this has already been suggested, but, are you eating enough?
If you are still you are still trying to lose weight by restricting caloric intake & exercise, then you are going to call me crazy.
At this point in the game , your body has adapted to surviving on low calories. You need to calculate your base metabolic rate & add your caloric burn to it. Then bring your caloric intake up to at least that number for about a month. This will convince your body that it is being well nourished & it will quit holding tightly to fat stores. Then you can go back yo the pouch test or any other calorie restrictive diet you choose. You'll notice that then & only then will your body release the fat stores. If you don't reach your goal in 2-3 weeks bring your calories back up and repeat the cycle.

I try not to disagree with people's surgeons, but I have to here.
Immediately after surgery your only concern should be hydration. Protein is nice, but not getting Protein won't land you in the hospital with dehydration. For God sakes, you are in Arizona. Once you are getting 60oz of fluids (Water, Powerade zero, or other very low or no calorie drinks) the add protein as you can tolerate it. Many people, like myself never experience any restriction on liquids & can get hydration & protein very quickly. Others however sometimes take over 2 weeks just to progress to the point of full hydration. You want to make this progression as quickly as you comfortably can, but do not push yourself to the point of discomfort.

Firstly let me say, you look great.
I didn't read the entire thread, so forgive me if this has already been suggested, but, are you eating enough?
If you are still you are still trying to lose weight by restricting caloric intake & exercise, then you are going to call me crazy.
At this point in the game , your body has adapted to surviving on low calories. You need to calculate your base metabolic rate & add your caloric burn to it. Then bring your caloric intake up to at least that number for about a month. This will convince your body that it is being well nourished & it will quit holding tightly to fat stores. Then you can go back yo the pouch test or any other calorie restrictive diet you choose. You'll notice that then & only then will your body release the fat stores. If you don't reach your goal in 2-3 weeks bring your calories back up and repeat the cycle.

You have no idea how lucky you are to have not gone the debt route. IMO debt free is tge only way to live. I did it for years, then I tried the debt thing, NEVER AGAIN. I even advocate the 100% down program on houses.

Firstly let me say, you look great.
I didn't read the entire thread, so forgive me if this has already been suggested, but, are you eating enough?
If you are still you are still trying to lose weight by restricting caloric intake & exercise, then you are going to call me crazy.
At this point in the game , your body has adapted to surviving on low calories. You need to calculate your base metabolic rate & add your caloric burn to it. Then bring your caloric intake up to at least that number for about a month. This will convince your body that it is being well nourished & it will quit holding tightly to fat stores. Then you can go back yo the pouch test or any other calorie restrictive diet you choose. You'll notice that then & only then will your body release the fat stores. If you don't reach your goal in 2-3 weeks bring your calories back up and repeat the cycle.